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		<title>By: Grand</title>
		<link>http://grandonlineprofits.com/another-300-day-and-what-is-online-business-pyramid/comment-page-1/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure James. You&#039;re welcome!

The only thing I also noticed, but this is my 100% personal way of doing things. For me personally, most efficient output is when I work on 1-2 projects max. Like, I promote 1 site and create another site in the same fashion like fisrt site.

I can apply the same SEO strategies to both of them, and the repeatable tasks are almost the same. So, it helps me get focused. 

When I&#039;m unfocused, that happens if I take 3-4 different projects at a time (like PPV + CPA offers, SEO site and adsense) - I end up spending LOTS of time onlie, but my whole business is stagnating! I&#039;m ramling as well!

There are lots of ways to profit, but seems that good old &quot;2007 way&quot; of working on my biz makes me most return on investment. I spent 2008 playing with PPC a lot, 2009 was hospital from hospital, couldn&#039;t concentrate on business a lot. Now I&#039;ve just wiped out 99% of guru&#039;s emails, closed unnecessary memberships, postponed paid traffic projects and concentrated on 1 site. In just 1 month I jumped from 1800$ to 3900$ in income. 

I&#039;ll invest these money into doing the same kind of sites! Using the same kind of SEO that I do now. And then..... maybe play with other ways to profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure James. You&#8217;re welcome!</p>
<p>The only thing I also noticed, but this is my 100% personal way of doing things. For me personally, most efficient output is when I work on 1-2 projects max. Like, I promote 1 site and create another site in the same fashion like fisrt site.</p>
<p>I can apply the same SEO strategies to both of them, and the repeatable tasks are almost the same. So, it helps me get focused. </p>
<p>When I&#8217;m unfocused, that happens if I take 3-4 different projects at a time (like PPV + CPA offers, SEO site and adsense) &#8211; I end up spending LOTS of time onlie, but my whole business is stagnating! I&#8217;m ramling as well!</p>
<p>There are lots of ways to profit, but seems that good old &#8220;2007 way&#8221; of working on my biz makes me most return on investment. I spent 2008 playing with PPC a lot, 2009 was hospital from hospital, couldn&#8217;t concentrate on business a lot. Now I&#8217;ve just wiped out 99% of guru&#8217;s emails, closed unnecessary memberships, postponed paid traffic projects and concentrated on 1 site. In just 1 month I jumped from 1800$ to 3900$ in income. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll invest these money into doing the same kind of sites! Using the same kind of SEO that I do now. And then&#8230;.. maybe play with other ways to profit.</p>
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		<title>By: JamestheJust on Elance</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamestheJust on Elance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for answering - I&#039;ve been thinking about this approach and the reasoning behind it, I believe you&#039;ve answered - it has to do with your level of competition.

I have ranked on page 2 of G, 1 of B and Y for most of my sites, make G&#039;s first page on a number of SEO terms and get good BinG love, but in any event, I have noticed that I make sporadic CJ sales - have just added Amazon and will see how that goes.

Love the CJ, high ticket items and all.  Will look into Market Health, and thanks for taking the time.  $300/day....that&#039;s only happened to me once.  Today was a $125 day, but that&#039;s only the 2nd time...sporadic, as I say.

All I do is SEO, UAW and EZA/GoArt&#039;s/ArtBase...oh, and BMD (if I&#039;d ever learn to use it right) along with SocialBot and a couple of RSS feed submitters...and one heck of a ping list...

Anyway, I&#039;m definitely thinking about concurrently creating the physical product sites more often - have about 3 now with only one really ranked in G pretty well.

i&#039;m rambling at this point.  need to go, but thanks for the tips, really helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for answering &#8211; I&#8217;ve been thinking about this approach and the reasoning behind it, I believe you&#8217;ve answered &#8211; it has to do with your level of competition.</p>
<p>I have ranked on page 2 of G, 1 of B and Y for most of my sites, make G&#8217;s first page on a number of SEO terms and get good BinG love, but in any event, I have noticed that I make sporadic CJ sales &#8211; have just added Amazon and will see how that goes.</p>
<p>Love the CJ, high ticket items and all.  Will look into Market Health, and thanks for taking the time.  $300/day&#8230;.that&#8217;s only happened to me once.  Today was a $125 day, but that&#8217;s only the 2nd time&#8230;sporadic, as I say.</p>
<p>All I do is SEO, UAW and EZA/GoArt&#8217;s/ArtBase&#8230;oh, and BMD (if I&#8217;d ever learn to use it right) along with SocialBot and a couple of RSS feed submitters&#8230;and one heck of a ping list&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m definitely thinking about concurrently creating the physical product sites more often &#8211; have about 3 now with only one really ranked in G pretty well.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m rambling at this point.  need to go, but thanks for the tips, really helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Grand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James!

Thanks for the comment,

You&#039;re absolutely right about building satellites networks! It takes a lot of time and effort and in 2007 I built all my satellites manually. From A to Z. Most of the satellites I had were blogspot blogs filled with dupe content and with links to my money pages. 

These satellites aren&#039;t updated since 2008 , but all of them are still having hundreds of visitos per month, and I&#039;m making sales from my banned site that get traffic through these satellites. (It was banned not for using satellites ;) due to spammers). 

THe logic behind building them now is similar - get backlinks from satellites to my money site and build backlinks to my money site AND satellites. If I get a flood of links to the money site, I may end up under google&#039;s filters, and if I build links to the other properties, links from them become stronger and my site gets higher rankings over time. Kind of saving the back. 

Why I do this? Actually, the software does this for me - EVO II. This is analog of SENuke, but it&#039;s completely automated, so I just spend 2-3 minutes getting a new article to add to my blogs, and the soft does the rest - publishes the article, adds backlinks, creates RSS, submits it, etc... 

THis is not to promote the soft, no way. It&#039;s quite expensive - 157$ per month, but with a smart approach it can be a good weapon in SEO efforts. I&#039;m just testing it to see if my rankings improve. I see some positive changes, but the potential is a lot bigger. 

I don&#039;t rely on the soft and still sniff for good backlinks manually, and add them manually. I also surely do a lot of EZA submissions myself, and get new articles written everyday by my writers. 

XFactor was absolutely right - why bother with a lot of unnecessary work when you can do the trick with simple things! But...it&#039;s OK for adsense sites that target pretty low competition keywords. PR 0 backlinks are enough sometimes to get top positions for these keywords... 

It&#039;s not common for more competitive terms - that&#039;s why I try to use combined approach - satellites, articles (EZA and Unique Article Wizard..), blog commenting, blog network links, profiles on high-PR sites... and definitely PR backlinks from related sites! 

Yes 300$ a day is agood income, it comes from the nature of products I promote - physical products with a good commissions. That&#039;s why I&#039;d recommend to promote MarketHealth.com products, the avg orders can sometimes bring up to 100$ at once.  What I also found, it&#039;s better to target high competition kws with a strong buyer indicators than hunt for low competition &quot;related&#039; keywords... It takes more time to get ranked, but once you ranked - wow just count the $$$ coming in :) bowtrolwarning.org is a good site that makes $$$ (not mine though). Ranked #1 for &quot;bowtrol&quot; ;) But authority sites tend to convert a LOT better than snipers, again my experience.

Btw James, you&#039;re right about CTR, I think I&#039;ll change the theme of my sites to what XFactor advises, sicne my adsense CTRs are awful... one-digit and close to zero ))) Maybe because I make more impact on CJ products than adsense. 

I will try to discuss the satellites a bit more and I think it deserves a separate post, now doing a note about this. 

Will reply to your other comments soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James!</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right about building satellites networks! It takes a lot of time and effort and in 2007 I built all my satellites manually. From A to Z. Most of the satellites I had were blogspot blogs filled with dupe content and with links to my money pages. </p>
<p>These satellites aren&#8217;t updated since 2008 , but all of them are still having hundreds of visitos per month, and I&#8217;m making sales from my banned site that get traffic through these satellites. (It was banned not for using satellites <img src='http://grandonlineprofits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  due to spammers). </p>
<p>THe logic behind building them now is similar &#8211; get backlinks from satellites to my money site and build backlinks to my money site AND satellites. If I get a flood of links to the money site, I may end up under google&#8217;s filters, and if I build links to the other properties, links from them become stronger and my site gets higher rankings over time. Kind of saving the back. </p>
<p>Why I do this? Actually, the software does this for me &#8211; EVO II. This is analog of SENuke, but it&#8217;s completely automated, so I just spend 2-3 minutes getting a new article to add to my blogs, and the soft does the rest &#8211; publishes the article, adds backlinks, creates RSS, submits it, etc&#8230; </p>
<p>THis is not to promote the soft, no way. It&#8217;s quite expensive &#8211; 157$ per month, but with a smart approach it can be a good weapon in SEO efforts. I&#8217;m just testing it to see if my rankings improve. I see some positive changes, but the potential is a lot bigger. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t rely on the soft and still sniff for good backlinks manually, and add them manually. I also surely do a lot of EZA submissions myself, and get new articles written everyday by my writers. </p>
<p>XFactor was absolutely right &#8211; why bother with a lot of unnecessary work when you can do the trick with simple things! But&#8230;it&#8217;s OK for adsense sites that target pretty low competition keywords. PR 0 backlinks are enough sometimes to get top positions for these keywords&#8230; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not common for more competitive terms &#8211; that&#8217;s why I try to use combined approach &#8211; satellites, articles (EZA and Unique Article Wizard..), blog commenting, blog network links, profiles on high-PR sites&#8230; and definitely PR backlinks from related sites! </p>
<p>Yes 300$ a day is agood income, it comes from the nature of products I promote &#8211; physical products with a good commissions. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;d recommend to promote MarketHealth.com products, the avg orders can sometimes bring up to 100$ at once.  What I also found, it&#8217;s better to target high competition kws with a strong buyer indicators than hunt for low competition &#8220;related&#8217; keywords&#8230; It takes more time to get ranked, but once you ranked &#8211; wow just count the $$$ coming in <img src='http://grandonlineprofits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  bowtrolwarning.org is a good site that makes $$$ (not mine though). Ranked #1 for &#8220;bowtrol&#8221; <img src='http://grandonlineprofits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  But authority sites tend to convert a LOT better than snipers, again my experience.</p>
<p>Btw James, you&#8217;re right about CTR, I think I&#8217;ll change the theme of my sites to what XFactor advises, sicne my adsense CTRs are awful&#8230; one-digit and close to zero ))) Maybe because I make more impact on CJ products than adsense. </p>
<p>I will try to discuss the satellites a bit more and I think it deserves a separate post, now doing a note about this. </p>
<p>Will reply to your other comments soon!</p>
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		<title>By: JamestheJust on Elance</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamestheJust on Elance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey again - 

I have a question - wouldn&#039;t it seem pertinent, rather than building a satellite system of blogs, to simply article-market?  If you&#039;re going to do all that much work, to build the sites to push the one main site, I mean, don&#039;t good link bait articles do the same, with less work?

Just curious, as I&#039;m up to about 9 sites/10 more going up shortly (soon as I finish my freelance writing gigs) - I&#039;ve outsourced the content writing to a team of 3 writers for the moment.  

In any event, I understand what you&#039;re up to re: satellites, and I hear that system bandied about (30 day challenge comes to mind), but I&#039;m just curious why the need when articles on Ezine, etc. seem to do that.

Again: not challenging your logic, simply trying to understand it.  The reason I ask is that I am definitely interested in $300/days, and have solid SEO&#039;d and ranking sites, taking the 1-3 pages in G, B, and Y across the board - but it seems the satellite system simply quadruples the ranking problem.  

Rather than ranking one site, you&#039;re now trying to rank 6.

Lastly, as to your CTR on G, I wouldn&#039;t actually mention that too much - it violates G&#039;s ToS, you might get dinged.  I will say, for the record, that if you aren&#039;t seeing low double digits in CTR, you may need to re-think your AdSense placement.

Are you simply using the XFactor system?  Again: just curious, as I&#039;ve had up and down days, but averaging low double digits (as close to a number as I&#039;ll get, though I don&#039;t want to get dinged by G for discussing CTR).

I&#039;ve been on many blogs where the Ads are text-wrapped, or there are more than 2 blocks of AdSense / page, all of which drives down CTR and finally CPC.

Otherwise...please do explain the satellite system a bit more - how do you make that work?  I&#039;m vaguely familiar, and not sure I&#039;m on board with it unless it means I can drive up sales.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey again &#8211; </p>
<p>I have a question &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t it seem pertinent, rather than building a satellite system of blogs, to simply article-market?  If you&#8217;re going to do all that much work, to build the sites to push the one main site, I mean, don&#8217;t good link bait articles do the same, with less work?</p>
<p>Just curious, as I&#8217;m up to about 9 sites/10 more going up shortly (soon as I finish my freelance writing gigs) &#8211; I&#8217;ve outsourced the content writing to a team of 3 writers for the moment.  </p>
<p>In any event, I understand what you&#8217;re up to re: satellites, and I hear that system bandied about (30 day challenge comes to mind), but I&#8217;m just curious why the need when articles on Ezine, etc. seem to do that.</p>
<p>Again: not challenging your logic, simply trying to understand it.  The reason I ask is that I am definitely interested in $300/days, and have solid SEO&#8217;d and ranking sites, taking the 1-3 pages in G, B, and Y across the board &#8211; but it seems the satellite system simply quadruples the ranking problem.  </p>
<p>Rather than ranking one site, you&#8217;re now trying to rank 6.</p>
<p>Lastly, as to your CTR on G, I wouldn&#8217;t actually mention that too much &#8211; it violates G&#8217;s ToS, you might get dinged.  I will say, for the record, that if you aren&#8217;t seeing low double digits in CTR, you may need to re-think your AdSense placement.</p>
<p>Are you simply using the XFactor system?  Again: just curious, as I&#8217;ve had up and down days, but averaging low double digits (as close to a number as I&#8217;ll get, though I don&#8217;t want to get dinged by G for discussing CTR).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been on many blogs where the Ads are text-wrapped, or there are more than 2 blocks of AdSense / page, all of which drives down CTR and finally CPC.</p>
<p>Otherwise&#8230;please do explain the satellite system a bit more &#8211; how do you make that work?  I&#8217;m vaguely familiar, and not sure I&#8217;m on board with it unless it means I can drive up sales.  Thanks!</p>
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